Dec. 14th, 2018

caramelchameleon: Webber waving a scrap of paper over his head excitedly (::::O)
i don't normally have anything to do with carvel momics. i was curious about the incongruous cartoon pig voiced by john mulaney and i fell down a helluva rabbit hole.
this post has been languishing in my tumblr drafts since i first wrote it, i wasn't bold enough to publish and reveal Just How Many Comics i had read in,, , less than a month; but i have no other content to offer and i think spiderverse actually came out today so sure! fine!
i'm not going to waste upload space on this unless i have to, let me know if the images break and i'll fix
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Cover of "Peter Porker, the Spectacular Spider-Ham"; Porker, a heavily stylized pig in Spider-Man costume, is giving a thumbs up.
  • it’s not a simpsons joke this is genuinely from, like, the 80s
  • this stylization is .. it’s not for me, but i can respect it
  • his snout is so long and it just looks like it ought to be able to telescope out longer. nyoop
look at him out of costume (and at this complete non-joke that i still think is funny) yes, his ears are always that huge and extremely weird. also everyone's lower jaws are always doing their level best to sidle off their faces
Peter Porker in civilian clothes, grabbing a pipe, with a shocked expression. "Gosh! When I grabbed this steel pipe, it crumpled like cardboard in my hand!" A dog plumber is pointing accusingly at him. "Hey, pal! What's the idea of grabbing my steel pipe and crumpling it like cardboard in your hand?!"
 
sometimes… it gets worse. there’s one issue in the middle of the series where everyone, including children, is inexplicably drawn like THIS
Peter Porker, weirdly gangly, and with every joint emphasized like he's smuggling grapefruits.
  • UNFORTUNATE
  • overall? 5/10
i’m not actually done with the 80s though:
peter the spider
An anthropomorphic spider (basically just a little man with four arms and four legs) sitting in a web.
  • an ordinary spider, before he was bitten by a radioactive pig
  • by rights i should deduct points because this isn’t visibly a spider at all except by number of limbs
  • he just looks like a muppet whose designer got overzealous
  • this however fails to take into account one important fact:
  • i love him 11/10
the amazing spider-man (2014)
Spider-Ham in a dynamic pose, flanked by other spider-people.
  • looks.. not great, but basically fine overall. sometimes his forehead is huge like this and devours his ears and eyes
  • unfortunately the big climactic plot point requires him to get naked and impersonate a baby that the immortal universe-jumping spiderman-eating vampires are trying to use in a ritual
  • (comic books r weird but this is not news)
  • and with his suit off he looks like THIS
Spider-Ham nude. It looks bad, chief. He's got relentlessly human hands, and hair, and a terrible saggy belly, and doesn't line up in the slightest with the outline he has in costume.
  • are you SURE this is the same character
  • these two pics are from the same goddamn issue you cant draw him all sleek and cartoonishly stylized and then give him digitigrade legs and human hair and biceps and saggy pecs
  • you CAN’T. 3/10
spider-verse team-up
Two panels of Spider-Ham having a discussion about breaking people's arms with two other Spider-Men.
  • i really like when they treat spider-ham as a weird cartoon but you can't draw him even this realistically if you want him to use cartoon physics! You Can't Have Both Ways!
  • what is that on his chest anyway cause it ain't a spider
  • sometimes he looks okay but when he shrugs there’s just like
  • just a little too much suggestion of musculature…
  • too much squish around the mouth
  • he unsettles me
  • 4/10
web warriors
Spider-Ham slinging web around. This one's really squashy and haphazardly chibi, which is better than gangly any day.
  • i’m weirdly alright with this one. i appreciate that he’s a squashy little gremlin. he shouldn’t ever be gangly, i think
  • sometimes he gets fucky and off-model but it’s in the correct direction, you know? it’s trending towards “cartoony” instead of “disastrous human anatomy on a pig”
  • unfortunately i think this was the continuity where lacking any better jokes the writers just made him the kind of absolute dillweed who responds to any possible criticism with “what, are you RACIST against PIGS”
  • the spider-verse crossovers seem to generally just make him a bitter jerk cause i guess it’s funny when a cartoon is cynical
  • 8/10 for design 2/10 for personality
spider-verse ii
Spider-Ham talking about the plot of this one, I don't know. I'm distracted by how atrocious he looks.
  • i accidentally read this one first and it didn’t make sense at the time
  • it still doesn’t lmao
  • also spider-ham looks BAD
  • why is his nose like that. why are his ears like that
  • why is his MOUTH like that
  • he has a nude scene again
Spider-Gwen attempts to drag Peter Porker out of a hospital bed. He grabs the blanket and resists, yelling "Hey! Hold up! I'm NAKED under here!" which is the last thing you ever want to hear from a pig you basically just met.
  • it’s like the artists learned exactly the wrong things from last time he was nude because now he’s smoothed out a lot but he’s still got enough realistic details that this might actually be worse
  • he’s got tiny little individual features and there’s just no continuity between them
  • seriously who looked at the realistic human teeth drifting aimlessly across his smooth round face and thought it would be fine
  • 1/10 i hate this
ultimate FF
Spider-Ham lying on the ground with his mask pulled off his costume, bleeding from his nose and mouth, and crying. He's drawn more realistically than any pig on this page but has human eyes. The text has been edited out and I didn't read this one, so I have no idea what's happening and I don't want to know.
 
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaughhhhhhh
  • pull the trigger piglet/10
spider-gwen volume II
Spider-Ham being sworn in to give court testimony and being kind of a smartass about it. He's got one hoof on the Bible. There's a juror or judge or somebody in the background looking roughly the appropriate level of bewildered.
  • he’s only here for like this one-panel goof but im kind of into his weird little hoof hands
  • lord, the ears though
  • wait, i tell a lie, there’s an alternate-universe him later on? with more fingers.
An aging Peter Porker with a piglet tucked into the crook of his arm.
  • augh theyre always giving him human eyes
  • and that SNOOT
  • in this universe he’s older and he’s got kids that appear to just be regular pigs which i really really don’t want to think about
  • the most realistic pig of them all, in general
  • 7/10. he really shouldn’t be this realistic but i can find few actual faults with him
lockjaw
Spider-Ham web-swinging into a fight, proclaiming, "The spectacular Spider-Ham at your service!"
  • i’ll be honest fellas i had no clue what went on in this one, like less than usual. there were dogs
  • but spider-ham has a decent role, isn’t a dillweed, and is competently drawn
  • i know i just said i have no idea what it was ultimately about but if you were gonna read only one thing with spider-ham in it i think i would honestly tell you to read this. it's only like 4 issues
  • i have no complaints 10/10
into the spiderverse
Movieverse Spider-Ham extending a weirdly moist hand to shake.
  • A GOOD BOY
  • a moist boy????
  • a lovingly animated boy
  • a john mulaney kinda boy
  • if you watch for it his snoot eyes emote and blink. keep it up!
  • okay, i dont LOVE some of the pieces of this design (the neck + cheek region, mostly) but it all melts away when i see it in motion honestly
  • 10/10 i cannot WAIT to see this little man in action
i haven't seen the movie yet and i'm probably not going to be able to for about a week! i know it's good don't spoil me too much bls..
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